[[2022-05-19]] [[jerry michalski]] Grew up in [[Lima]] and then [[Buenos Aires]]! Buenos Aires in the 1960s! The status of [[South America]] and [[Africa]]. The role of the [[catholic church]] in the problems of the continent. [[liberation theology]] [[curas tercermundistas]] [[bergoglio]] [[sj]] brother in [[Santiago]] :) (not my brother) -> [[jerry’s brain]] [[cybersyn]] [[salvador allende]] #book [[overthrow]] how do we frame this conversation? we have a lot of things we could talk about, what’s a nice useful way to start this conversation? [[sj]] [[wikilinks everywhere]] [[fellowship]] [[stress testing new technology]] in this space [[wikilinks everywhere]] [[jerry]] how we handle links seems very powerful “how can I be the [[chuck yeager]] of a the new platform” would love to get out of the current tool into something freer [[500000]] nodes, [[1000000]] links [[flancian]] FYI the Agora is small but has 1:4 linking ratio currently “linking freely but not promiscuously helps find things later” [[note taking]] vs [[thebrain]] note taking does happen in the brain but Jerry doesn’t actually use the notes field per se it’s not even outliner mode: it’s an actual graph that Jerry navigates dynamically what about the time dimension? [[thebrain]] timestamps everything, but it’s not really retrievable via an API wish: interop between tools that support every useful workflow #push [[open global mind]] group, every Thu there is a check in call, as an example of taking notes here [[thebrain]] Jerry’s their largest user. Has never paid for it. Freeing Jerry’s Brain what else might we do with the structure that it’s easy for him to capture / has been captured? Exploring migration to other platforms. Asked for an [[rss]] feed twenty years ago (!) No other tool seems to be up to the task of migrating to it. Export is a [[json]] dump Has imported it into a [[nosql]] database ~1y ago Some thoughts are [[private]] though, which adds some complexity. Those need to be filtered out. Would love to offer his brain to others to take a snapshot and start building on it. [[sj]] [[huggingmind]]? [[content hash]] based tools have failed so far if you get into [[decentralized sharing]], there are: [[named based models]] [[content hash models]] no clustering, no updates, need to solve equivalence and relationships in a different level (ipfs has ipdns) both of these are missing the higher level point: what humans want to share is [[concepts]] “you want the latest [[human genome]]” “you want to find a map of [[charging stations]]” it’d make sense to compose canonical lists at different levels (city, region, global) [[coordination problem]] [[hashtags]] as an example of grassroot technology [[wikilinks]] as acceptable search queries for whatever you’re trying to store [[metasj]] [[chatoyancy]] [[query based event addressing]] [[search engine company]] experimented with crowdsourced query editing Jerry: “do you have any other [[vector]] into it” [[flancian]] have you done a [[mindmeld]] with someone else? Jerry knows one more advanced user, but [[thebrain]] doesn’t offer any way to do this the exported bag of [[json]] objects is available, people are interested [[free jerry’s brain]] group, meets Mondays at 1PM Pacific, part of [[open global mind]] also [[mattermost]] has a channel dedicated to it [[peter kaminski]] where to chat? https://chat.collectivesensecommons.org/agora/tips [[matrix]] [[google groups]] [[fellowship of the link]] [[zsolt]] did a [[excalidraw]] + [[obsidian]] mashup “https://www.linkedin.com/in/zsolt-viczian/ TheBrain-like graph-based navigation in Obsidian with Excalidraw, Dataview, and Hover Editor (V2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plYobK-VufM” [[metasj]]: [[bretv]] is great and would be a good addition to these conversations a healthy way forward is to have a series of design sessions for the interop ecosystem, identify components, identify the pieces that will make it easy for others to adopt the system and get value from it [[jerry]] [[Rel8]] Use Cases: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWkwOefBPZY Jerry: “sharing our notes to fix civilization” Replacing [[powerpoint]] with better storytelling tool [[prezi]] was great and then regressed :( there’s an opportunity in this space [[powerpoint killers]][ [[samuel]] [[h5p]] [[jerry]] #push [[dxos]] https://dxos.org/ https://github.com/dxos [[codex editor]] == [[codex]] in the Agora questions: chat platform: [[mattermost]] or something else? [[open]] by default or not? open build conceptual outline [[google doc]]? [[node]] it? think about [[diversity]] meet again in 1w/2w? on https://meet.jit.si/fotl start an [[awesome foundation]] chapter? [[wikimedia]] has a grants program for experiments, but they are grant-like and larger [[public bounties]]? what’s a good platform for bounties? [[samuel]] [[expensify]] is a good example [[building bridges]]