- [[2022-05-19]]
- [[jerry michalski]]
- Grew up in [[Lima]] and then [[Buenos Aires]]!
- Buenos Aires in the 1960s!
- The status of [[South America]] and [[Africa]].
- The role of the [[catholic church]] in the problems of the continent.
- [[liberation theology]]
- [[curas tercermundistas]]
- [[bergoglio]]
- [[sj]]
- -> [[jerry’s brain]] [[cybersyn]] [[salvador allende]]
- how do we frame this conversation?
- we have a lot of things we could talk about, what’s a nice useful way to start this conversation?
- [[sj]]
- [[wikilinks everywhere]]
- [[fellowship]]
- [[stress testing new technology]] in this space
- [[wikilinks everywhere]]
- [[jerry]] how we handle links seems very powerful
- “how can I be the [[chuck yeager]] of a the new platform”
- would love to get out of the current tool into something freer
- [[500000]] nodes, [[1000000]] links
- [[flancian]] FYI the Agora is small but has 1:4 linking ratio currently
- “linking freely but not promiscuously helps find things later”
- [[note taking]] vs [[thebrain]]
- note taking does happen in the brain
- but Jerry doesn’t actually use the notes field per se
- it’s not even outliner mode: it’s an actual graph that Jerry navigates dynamically
- what about the time dimension?
- [[thebrain]] timestamps everything, but it’s not really retrievable via an API
- wish: interop between tools that support every useful workflow
- #push [[open global mind]] group, every Thu there is a check in call, as an example of taking notes here
- [[thebrain]]
- Jerry’s their largest user.
- Has never paid for it.
- Freeing Jerry’s Brain
- what else might we do with the structure that it’s easy for him to capture / has been captured?
- Exploring migration to other platforms.
- Asked for an [[rss]] feed twenty years ago (!)
- No other tool seems to be up to the task of migrating to it.
- Export is a [[json]] dump
- Has imported it into a [[nosql]] database ~1y ago
- Some thoughts are [[private]] though, which adds some complexity. Those need to be filtered out.
- Would love to offer his brain to others to take a snapshot and start building on it.
- [[sj]] [[huggingmind]]?
- [[content hash]] based tools have failed so far
- if you get into [[decentralized sharing]], there are:
- [[named based models]]
- [[content hash models]]
- no clustering, no updates, need to solve equivalence and relationships in a different level (ipfs has ipdns)
- both of these are missing the higher level point: what humans want to share is [[concepts]]
- “you want the latest [[human genome]]”
- “you want to find a map of [[charging stations]]”
- it’d make sense to compose canonical lists at different levels (city, region, global)
- [[coordination problem]]
- [[hashtags]] as an example of grassroot technology
- [[wikilinks]] as acceptable search queries for whatever you’re trying to store
- [[metasj]] [[chatoyancy]]
- [[query based event addressing]]
- [[search engine company]] experimented with crowdsourced query editing
- Jerry: “do you have any other [[vector]] into it”
- [[flancian]] have you done a [[mindmeld]] with someone else?
- Jerry knows one more advanced user, but [[thebrain]] doesn’t offer any way to do this
- the exported bag of [[json]] objects is available, people are interested
- [[free jerry’s brain]] group, meets Mondays at 1PM Pacific, part of [[open global mind]]
- also [[mattermost]] has a channel dedicated to it
- [[peter kaminski]]
- where to chat?
- [[zsolt]] did a [[excalidraw]] + [[obsidian]] mashup
- a healthy way forward is to have a series of design sessions for the interop ecosystem, identify components, identify the pieces that will make it easy for others to adopt the system and get value from it
- [[jerry]] [[Rel8]] Use Cases: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWkwOefBPZY
- Jerry: “sharing our notes to fix civilization”
- Replacing [[powerpoint]] with better storytelling tool
- [[prezi]] was great and then regressed :(
- there’s an opportunity in this space
- [[powerpoint killers]][
- [[samuel]] [[h5p]]
- [[jerry]]
- #push [[dxos]]
- [[codex editor]] == [[codex]] in the Agora
- questions:
- chat platform: [[mattermost]] or something else?
- [[open]] by default or not?
- build conceptual outline
- [[google doc]]?
- [[node]] it?
- think about [[diversity]]
- meet again in 1w/2w? on https://meet.jit.si/fotl
- start an [[awesome foundation]] chapter?
- [[wikimedia]] has a grants program for experiments, but they are grant-like and larger
- [[public bounties]]?
- what’s a good platform for bounties?
- [[samuel]] [[expensify]] is a good example
- [[building bridges]]
