# Attendance
- [[flancian]]
- eduardo from argentina
- currently in switzerland
- day job is sre, background in sysadmin, unix/linux
- more like a hacker, hacker of things
- spent 9 years in a company
- since 2 years out of the bubble
- feels old school
- python server side stuff
- interested in the web3, dweb approaches
- [[vera]]
- from [[portland]]
- radical anarchist, @flanciavera on twitter
- [[especifismo]] anarchism, federation like
- been into crypto since ~2009, mined 50 btc on a laptop at one point :)
- into distributed/federated systems
- [[udit]]
- with hypha since the beginning, that's 2019/late 2018
- background in [[electrical engineering]]
- working on product/project management, research, product strategy at hypha
- [[projects]]
- [[compost]]
- [[cosmos]]
- [[speculative fiction]]
- https://fromlater.com
- https://memory-work.com
- https://solidarity.tech
- was thinking of having a [[web ring]] here
- [[mondegreen]] [[web brain]]
- [[benhylau]]
- (we've met before)
- interested in alternate forms to [[web rings]] that are more distributed, going beyond
- how can we
## Agora
- nodes are entities
- just text; a freeform text label
- [[pubsub]] topics
- publish anything by publishing canonical wikilink
- global presence, out of social media into the web as a holistic concept
## Solidarity
- [[merveilles]] town web ring is a nice example of a web ring
- https://webring.xxiivv.com/
- flancian:
- webring as just the presentation layer
- curated experience through a community
- [[knowledge futures group]]
- [[metasj]]
- [[underlay project]]
- [[udit]] web rings
- one concern with the distributed approach: high level of curation needed
- see web rings as an onramp
- would like to make sure they work with [[distributed press]]
- webrings with a purpose
- examples:
- webring of wealthy individuals willing to contribute to UBI
- gamify them
- democratically controlled
- more inclusive so people can participate
- [[accessibility]]
- people submitting to moderation queue
## UBI
- current projects
- https://joincircles.net/
- https://www.gooddollar.org/
- wealthy individuals giving directly
- [[effective altruism]]
- potential projects
- are there better ways to do similar things?
- [[udit]] some concerns over whether it could backfire and end up preserving existing power structures
- [[vera]] if we have UBI it needs to be decentralized / not nation based
- [[flancian]] how do we help/solve the problem of matching people with interesting projects in this space?
- [[udit]] it is a very large problem, economics as a field tries to tackle solving coordination/matching problems
- [[vera]] we need to have problems be defined and contextualized by the people that are suffering them
- is there a generic structure that could aid in the quest to find solutions to people's problems?
- [[vera]] UBI seems like the most efficient path forward
- [[effective altruism]]
- how to solve problems
- internet freedom
- I have time/resources where do I go? What do I do?
- value flow
- https://valueflo.ws/