Attendance

[[flancian]]
- eduardo from argentina
- currently in switzerland
- day job is sre, background in sysadmin, unix/linux
- more like a hacker, hacker of things
- spent 9 years in a company
- since 2 years out of the bubble
- feels old school
- python server side stuff
- interested in the web3, dweb approaches
[[vera]]
- from [[portland]]
- radical anarchist, @flanciavera on twitter
  - [[especifismo]] anarchism, federation like
- been into crypto since ~2009, mined 50 btc on a laptop at one point :)
- into distributed/federated systems
[[udit]]
- with hypha since the beginning, that’s 2019/late 2018
- background in [[electrical engineering]]
- working on product/project management, research, product strategy at hypha
- [[projects]]
  - [[compost]]
  - [[cosmos]]
  - [[speculative fiction]]
    - https://fromlater.com
    - https://memory-work.com
  - https://solidarity.tech
    - was thinking of having a [[web ring]] here
    - [[mondegreen]] [[web brain]]
[[benhylau]]
- (we’ve met before)
- interested in alternate forms to [[web rings]] that are more distributed, going beyond
- how can we

Agora

[[merveilles]] town web ring is a nice example of a web ring
- https://webring.xxiivv.com/
flancian:
- webring as just the presentation layer
- curated experience through a community
- [[knowledge futures group]]
  - [[metasj]]
  - [[underlay project]]
[[udit]] web rings
- one concern with the distributed approach: high level of curation needed
- see web rings as an onramp
- would like to make sure they work with [[distributed press]]
webrings with a purpose
- examples:
  - webring of wealthy individuals willing to contribute to UBI
- gamify them
- democratically controlled
- more inclusive so people can participate
  - [[accessibility]]
- people submitting to moderation queue

current projects
- https://joincircles.net/
- https://www.gooddollar.org/
- wealthy individuals giving directly
  - [[effective altruism]]
potential projects
are there better ways to do similar things?
[[udit]] some concerns over whether it could backfire and end up preserving existing power structures
- [[vera]] if we have UBI it needs to be decentralized / not nation based
[[flancian]] how do we help/solve the problem of matching people with interesting projects in this space?
- [[udit]] it is a very large problem, economics as a field tries to tackle solving coordination/matching problems
- [[vera]] we need to have problems be defined and contextualized by the people that are suffering them
- is there a generic structure that could aid in the quest to find solutions to people’s problems?
- [[vera]] UBI seems like the most efficient path forward
[[effective altruism]]
- how to solve problems
- internet freedom
- I have time/resources where do I go? What do I do?
- value flow
  - https://valueflo.ws/